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1. #1    Typical Republican. It's okay to send others off to kill and be killed, as long as he doesn't have to get out of his lounge chair. Depression, anal cysts, whatever....Republicans have a million excuses.....
   written by protect_democracy since 14 days 15 hours 28 minutes
2. #2    Good on Markos!
   
   A couple of years ago (while he was still in the House) Tancredo was on Hartmann's show. Hartmann asked him to name one bill - in the past 8 years that the Republicans had offered that favoredMiddle-calss Americans or the Poor over Corporations and the Rich. HE couldn't name one.
   written by PHred42 since 14 days 3 hours 58 minutes
3. #3    Well...there's a couple of things that bother me about that little contretemps - how are you anti-war if you're fighting in the war, and I also have heard - haven't we all, about the very poorly run VA? Not that I want to defend the execrable Tancredo, but I don't think that exchange will win hearts and minds. I think MSNBC gets a little too 'rahrah-for-our-side' [Not that these guys don't have it coming], but a more probative approach would be less like stooping to their level.
   written by AlicedeTocqueville since 13 days 16 hours 29 minutes
4. #4    Many who serve in a time of war come back not wanting to send others into combat unless it's absolutely necessary. Vietnam has been viewed as a mistake by many. It was an experience that turned me against war as a way to achieve political objectives.
   
   Even if Saddam had WMD, I was sure Iraq was not a threat. He didn't have the necessary delivery vehicles. Colin Powel told us this in Feb '01 and I believed him. We should have kept our forces in Afghanistan and maybe we would have finished that mission before now.
   
   Markos did the right thing in putting Tancredo on the spot. Too many supporters of the war in Iraq were among the group that had 'better things to do' when given the opportunity to serve during Vietnam. They didn't mind sending other family's sons and daughters into harms way because they didn't understand the consequences of war.
   written by tahoeprogressive since 13 days 16 hours 7 minutes
5. #5    ""How are you anti-war if you're fighting in the war, and I also have heard - haven't we all, about the very poorly run VA?""
   
   Alice de Tocqueville, being a 72 year old Navy Chief Petty officer (retired) believe that I am probably well qualified to answer your questions. I spent over 20 years on active duty and was on active duty for the entire Viet Nam war, spending the better part of 5 years in and around Viet Nam. I have been a Socialist since birth as my mother left me with my Swedish and Norwegian Grandparents for the entire World War II. My grandmother was a Socialist with a capitol S. My grandfather was a Democratic Party Member and I never heard him once cro...
   
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   written by maheanuu since 13 days 12 hours 52 minutes
6. #6    Maheanuu, I guess my comment wasn't very clear. I have nothing but contempt for Tancredo and the other chickenhawks, but like you, I'm wishing something will 'pull the country together', and I just wonder if being as chauvinistic as Faux News will do it.
   As for my other point, when more vets speak up and counsel the next generation not to get sucked into the war machine, when 19-year-olds think for their country before they offer their lives for their country, then we'll have a country worth fighting for.
   I'm glad you have health care - wish I did.
   written by AlicedeTocqueville since 13 days 5 hours 11 minutes

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